On that Saturday morning of the Labor Day weekend, despite the fact that he is so visibly upset, that he is inconsolably crying in his office, the trip is still on.
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It was a speech that was full of praise for Germany under Hitler. He lives about 10 minutes from where the plane went down. 4 h 55 m UNKNOWN - UNKNOWN PREVIOUS ACCIDENT RECORD INJURIES TO PILOT Pilot was member of scheduled, routine, day navigation MISSING A flight which took off from NAS FT LAUDERDALE FL NAME AND RANK OF OTHER PERSONNEL INJ 5 DEC 1945 at 1408. The rest of the transmissions were heard by ASRTU-4. Maddow: Sitting Senators just dont drop dead on a regular basis.
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DAMAGE DAMAGE DESCRIPTION & REMARKS Fact finding board of investigation has been appointed AIRCRAFT X AIRCRAFT AND ENGINE LOST AT SEA by CNAADTRA to make detailed report on & if possible ENGINES cause of loss of a/c. He could not contact the flight further.
if their navigation was off in the end, it was probably off from the start.
Maddow: With the world steaming toward World War as Hitler stormed Europe, picking off country after country, U.S.
The Radio Transcript A review of the records reveals that a transcript of radio communications was taken.
You can see it in Ernest Lundeens archives at Stanford University. 232 (1877) Working Hours at Navy Yards and Stations, General Order No.
Yet was it a mystery or instead just another example of what pilots call the error chain, a series of small errors that lead inexorably to a final crash? Its called Flight 19 because it was the 19th group of training pilots that day.
And the flight that he was about to board also happened to include multiple Justice Department personnel who would be flying alongside him. If they could advance their career by playing footsy with Nazis, so be it.
Most of the men comprising Flight 19 were student aviators of Class 46330 completing their syllabus in the advanced TBM course before ultimately reporting to their operational squadrons.
Its complement of five Grumman Avenger bombers, crewed by fourteen airmen, were lost at sea on 5 December 1945 after losing their bearings.
The four student pilots had compiled approximately 60
WebFlight 19 (Part 3) Astonishing Legends - see all episodes The timeline of events leading up to the disappearance of Flight 19 suggest, as with so many tragedies, that it was not just one mistake responsible for the ultimate loss of 27 airmen, but a series of minor miscommunications and faltering.
Young: as a way to end Lundeen's life unnaturally. You must do this now.
Simultaneously, an inland search was carried out in hope that the aircraft had come down in the Everglades.
Maddow: The evidence of human loss across the hundreds of yards of the debris field from the crash, it was just devastating.
Fact finding TBM-1C 73209 USED board of investivation has been appointed by CNAADTRA DAMAGE DAMAGE DESCRIPTION & REMARKS to make a detailed report and if possible determine AIRCRAFT X AIRCRAFT AND ENGINE LOST AT SEA cause of loss of subj a/c. This is FT-74, plane or boat calling Powers please identify yourself so someone can help you. (Ed. ), FT-28, this is FT-74, what is your trouble?, Both my compasses are out and I am trying to find Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
Orange line indicates path of PBM-5 BuNo 59225 from Banana River NAS; explosion in orange. 16, USS Liscome Bay CVE56 War Damage Report No.
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A radio message was intercepted from the flight at around 1600 hours, recording a conversation likely between Taylor and the pilot of
Plots to overthrow the United States government by force of arms. Lucky for us, the largely forgotten Americans who fought these fights before us, they have stories to tell.
Maddow: Thats John Flannery.
Transcript Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra Episode 1: Trip 19 It started with a plane crash.
comments: This almost certainly puts him at the northern edge of the Bahamas), FT-28: Can you have Miami or someone turn on their radar gear and pick us up?
We were out on a navigation hop and on the second leg I thought they were going wrong, so I took over and was flying them back to the right position.
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Mayday.
As evening wore on, weather conditions deteriorated and seas were described as massive.
Incredibly, despite achieving a reasonable radio fix, somehow that information was not relayed to Flight 19.
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Literally on the local railroad. And that passenger manifest confirmed what Senator Lundeen's secretary already knew. Fort Lauderdale is 20 miles further, your first port after Miami.
Ghost-written by a senior, paid agent of Hitler's government operating in America, a man to whom Senator Lundeen had grown very close. And I ran across this one, walking around, and it was just from the middle of her stomach, her head and everything, that was it.
Hart: The archival records suggests that possibly some, if not pro-Hitler, sort of pro-peacemaking with Nazi Germany type content.
Training Dept has been directed to intensify training in lost plane CAUSE M-1 POOR NAVIGATION procedure & stress with all pilots the necessity ANAYLISIS Z POOR NAVIGATION for carrying our correct procedure when lost.
The messages were overheard by the senior flight instructor at Ft. Lauderdale, Fox Tare Seventy-Four (FT-74), who contacted the flight from his aircraft.
GEN NATURE Y SPEC TYPE EXPLODED AT SEA- CAUSE ANALYSIS TALLY UNKNOWN D R A-B O AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT D R A-B OTHER CLASSIFICATION OF ACCIDENT CAUSES CARD NAVAIR 339C D R, DANFS - Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships, Permitting Policy and Resource Management, The 9/11 Terrorist Attacks: 20 Years Later, "Ex Scientia Tridens": The U.S. His presence on the flight and the strange circumstances surrounding the crash would end up revealing threats to American democracy itself. Maddow: After the crash of Trip 19, Senator Ernest Lundeen was given a state funeral in Minnesota.
Most immediately, in Washington, there was shock and grief from Senator Lundeens colleagues in the capital.
After more than a decade biding his time, building up the support and the war chest he would need to try again, Lundeen made another run for office.
Is that an argument?
Support for that movement among serving members of Congress who prove willing and able to use their share of American political power to defend the extremists, to protect themselves, to throw off the investigation.
9 (1863) Observance of Paroles, General Order No. TALLY CLASSIFICATION OF ACCIDENT CAUSES D R A-B O AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT D R A-B OTHER 100% UNDETERMINED CARD NAVAIR 339C X X, DATE HOUR LOCATION PURPOSE SERIAL NUMBER 5-Dec-45 APPROX 1904 AT SEA NAVIGATION 63-45 PILOT NAME, RANK & SERVICE GROUP ASSIGNED CEILING VISIBILITY WIND/ FORCE DARKNESS NIGHT HRS NIGHT HRS POWERS, E.J. Battlecruisers in the United States and the United Kingdom, 1902-1922. Maddow: Senator Lundeen knew from experience that his stance against the U.S. joining the war in Europe might be politically unpopular.
But it turns out it wasn't your average Ernest Lundeen stump speech.
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A/S Rescue Unit 9 alerted all stations & everything possible was done to get flight back safely.
Flight 19s radio transmissions soon became increasingly faint as it meandered out to sea.
They drive to the airfield for him to catch his flight.
They force-marched him to the local railyard, threw him in the refrigerator car of a train that was just pulling out of the station, and then locked the door. He said it was signed by the lone flight attendant on board. ), Unidentified pilot: Dammit, if we could just fly west we would get home; head west, dammit. (Ed comments: This was the only voice of reason, one of the inexperienced pilots who recognized that they were still off the east coast of Florida in fact, based on even rudimentary navigation, that was the ONLY possibility.
Maddow: Beyond the apparent indestructability in that speech surviving a plane crash, beyond its pretty remarkable content, there was something else notable about that speech.
Senator, gone in an instant.
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And so you have to scratch your head.
294 (1917) Identification Tags ("Dog Tags"), General Order No.
The disappearance began the modern myth of the Bermuda Triangle. 4 h 55 m UNKNOWN - UNKNOWN SPEED PREVIOUS ACCIDENT RECORD INJURIES TO PILOT Pilot was leader of scheduled, routine, day navigation MISSING A flight which took off from NAS FT LAUDERDALE NAME AND RANK OF OTHER PERSONNEL INJ 5 DEC 1945 at 1408. And although he certainly wasn't alone in that vote, it was a controversial vote.
The Radio Transcript A review of the records reveals that a transcript of radio communications was taken. On December 5th,1945 just after 2 pm, Flight 19 left Fort Lauderdales Naval Air Station. But another thing that Drew Pearson was definitely right about in his reporting was his prediction that the Justice Department was going to deny that Senator Lundeen was under investigation. He tells the story to everyone who is interested! He's got his head down on his desk, his head is buried in his arms.
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FT-74 returned to Ft. Lauderdale. CAUSE M-1 POOR NAVIGATION Training dept directed to intensify training in lost ANAYLISIS (Z) POOR NAVIGATION plane procedure & stress to pilots necessity TALLY for carrying out correct procedure when lost.
RECOMMENDATIONS: added ENGINES emphasis is placed on importance of proper navigation GEN NATURE E-2 & lost plane procedure.
Has anyone ever done the math to establish a general search area? 292 (1882) Establishment of the Office of Intelligence, General Order No.
And he didn't just keep it for a day, he kept it the whole rest of his life.
Last seen at 04:39PM -04 near Acarigua, Venezuela. Was he fatigued or feeling ill?
by Brian Dunning Filed under History & Pseudohistory, Paranormal Skeptoid Podcast #417 June 3, 2014 Podcast transcript | Subscribe Listen:
Rachel Maddow: His name is Ernest Lundeen.
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Incorrectly, the popular lore regarding the disappearance of Flight 19 claims otherwise.
Taylor was a seasoned naval aviator with some 2,500 flying hours and multiple World War II combat tours in the Pacific. Clocks are a simple navigational requirement. Flannery: There was reportedly a scuffle, whatever that means. The tragic, mysterious crash of a commercial airliner in the summer of 1940 left a scene of devastation in rural Virginia -- and a series of unanswered questions. Second, the flight was late in taking off because the instructor ran late.
Even for those who clambered clear of the planes and might have gotten into rafts, those planes searching for them would have found it almost impossible to find the men. Maddow: Perhaps most importantly, this is also the story of the Americans mostly now lost to history who picked up the slack in this fight, who worked themselves to expose what was going on, to investigate it, to report on it, ultimately to stop it. Results negative. By Thomas Van Hare. Maddow: John Flannery, who gave us the tour of the crash site, he also happens to be a former federal prosecutor he was an assistant U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York for years. Hart: Ernest Lundeen is, I think, one of the more fascinating figures in this period. Maddow: It wasnt just the length of time it took to prepare the speech that set it apart.
And Senator Lundeen knew it.
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In any case, the Bahamas and the Keys look a lot alike from the air and most likely he was somewhere near Great Sale Cay, which was on his intended course i.e., nowhere near the Florida Keys. And he managed to stand out even from his other peers who voted no like he did.
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Archival radio material is from NBC News, via our beloved Library of Congress, with additional sound from CBS News.
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That Walter G Jeffrey, LTJG, USN 329291 volunteer ARCENEAUX, CHARLES D. ENS USNR MISSING A to act as patrol plane commander of PBM-5 59225 CONE, HARRY GRIMES LTJG USNR MISSING A Squadron Training 49, on night of 5 DEC 1945 & in so ALLEN, ROGER MURRAY ENS USNR MISSING A doing displayed sense of duty & spirit. It was riveted in their mind. Admiral William B. Caperton of the 1918 Influenza on Armored Cruiser No.
by Brian Dunning Filed under History & Pseudohistory, Paranormal Skeptoid Podcast #417 June 3, 2014 Podcast transcript | Subscribe Listen: An intensive search was carried out starting daybreak 6 DEC 1945 & securing 1527 A/C MODEL & NO PARACHUTE 10 DEC 1945. Were they there because Senator Lundeen was on board? When she gets in, she finds him already there, already at his desk.
That one term he served in Congress back in 1917, it was a political disaster.
Stopped, circled area using searchlights, looking for survivors.
Intensive search was carrried A/C MODEL & NO PARACHUTE out starting at daybreak 6 DEC 1945 & securing at 1527 TBM-3 23307 USED 10 DEC 1945. -.
On a sunny day 58 years ago, five Navy planes took off from their base in Florida on a routine training mission, known as Flight 19. Modern pilots are taught to recognize the Error Chain end things before they proceed to an accident.
When Lundeens secretary raced to the scene of the crash that afternoon to learn the fate of her boss, one report from the time says she met a policeman at the scene of the crash who told her something strange.
Drew Pearson plays this incredibly important role in blowing the lid off of this.
Although often referred to as the Lost Patrol, Flight 19 was a routine training mission, Navigation Problem No.
04:10PM -04 Simon Bolivar Int'l (Maiquetia Int'l) - CCS.
TALLY CLASSIFICATION OF ACCIDENT CAUSES D R A-B O AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT D R A-B OTHER 100% UNDETERMINED CARD NAVAIR 339C X X, Lieutenant (jg) Walter G. Jeffrey - Search Aircraft, DATE HOUR LOCATION PURPOSE SERIAL NUMBER 5-Dec-45 UNKNOWN UNKNOWN EMERGENCY SEARCH ATU-11-45 PILOT NAME, RANK & SERVICE GROUP ASSIGNED CEILING VISIBILITY WIND FORCE DARKNESS NIGHT HRS NIGHT HRS JEFFREY, WALTER G., USN, Lt(jg) VPB2-ATU3 6000 8 270 10 YES UNIT AIRCRAFT ASSIGNED WEATHER @ ACCIDENT INSRUMENT INSTRUMENT TYPE CLEARANCE VPB2-ATU3 NAS BANANA RIVER HOURS HOURS CONTACT TOTAL HOURS TOTAL HRS THIS MODEL TOTAL HRS LAST 3 MONTHS HRS THIS MODEL LAST 3 MONTHS TIME IN FLIGHT MANEUVER OR ALT OF MANEUVER ANGLE OF IMPACT, STOP DIST, EST SPEED 1917.8 426.2 85.7 85.7 UNKNOWN UNKNOWN PREVIOUS ACCIDENT RECORD Informal fact finding board convened by CO of INJURIES TO PILOT NAS BANANA RIVER, FL to investigate loss of MISSING A PBM-5 59225 & crew of 13 officers and men.
FT-28: All planes close up tight well have to ditch unless landfall when the first plane drops below 10 gallons, we all go down together..
Flannery: Mr. Painter's older brother walked into the field and he saw teeth and there was a gold tooth in there and he threw it at the ground and broke out the gold tooth and he kept it. A/S rescure unit 4 alerted all stations and everything possible was done to get whis flight back safely. Write your congressmen and senators, telephone them, wire them, come to Washington to see them. Radio Reporter: He thinks reporters and newspapers who have helped to indict the defendants are engaged in a dirty business, and predicted that the day will soon come when they will all regret it.
Maddow: This is a story of treachery, deceit and almost unfathomable actions on the part of people who are elected to defend the constitution, but who instead got themselves implicated in a plot to undermine it. Informative and well-written article, well done. The biggest mistake is assuming they dropped their bombs on Hen and Chickens shoals. The sudden, tragic nature of Lundeens death was just shocking to the whole Congress, to all of Washington.
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Another 20 minutes passed without clear signal from any of the aircraft then the following was heard (by this time, the flight was nearly out of fuel.
A flight that none of them would survive.
19, USS South Dakota BB57 War Damage Report No.
A bird or a plane or a flying machine or terrestrial things.
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Recollections of Capture by the Germans, Imprisonment, and Escape of Lieutenant Edouard Victor Isaacs, U.S.N. Radio Announcer: Youre about to hear an address delivered before a meeting of the America First Committee in Madison Square Garden in New York City.
We tried to confirm those reports one way or the other. by Brian Dunning Filed under History & Pseudohistory, Paranormal Skeptoid Podcast #417 June 3, 2014 Podcast transcript | Subscribe Listen:
WebFlight plan (in white) of Flight 19 on December 5, 1945.
Flannery: Well, we're standing at a, at the top of a ridge, if you will, and we're at a location, which if you were to take some of the witnesses, 750 feet above us, a plane is roaring over our head. Radio Reporter: Today, Saturday August the 31st.
The light red flightpath indicates possible positions between first turn and HF/DF radio triangulation at 17:50.
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